Taylor Swift didn’t ask to be Exhibit A in America’s newest Second Amendment fight, but here we are. In a closely watched series of post-Bruen rulings, federal appeals courts are testing how far states can go in banning guns from crowded venues – think sold-out stadium concerts, amusement districts, and busy public parks.
As Alex Ebert reports for Bloomberg Law, a recent Third Circuit opinion even invoked the leap from “waltzes in ballrooms” to Taylor Swift shows to justify modern “sensitive places” where firearms can be barred. On the other side, constitutional attorney Mark W. Smith argues the lower courts are stretching history and that the Supreme Court won’t let “crowded equals banned” become the rule.
What Bloomberg Law Reported

According to Ebert, multiple circuits – spanning ideological ground from the Fifth to the Ninth – have upheld location-based restrictions after New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen replaced interest-balancing with a text-history-tradition test. The question is no longer whether a policy seems sensible; it’s whether it fits the nation’s historical pattern of firearms regulation. Ebert frames the newest twist this way: courts are extracting principles from 18th- and 19th-century limits on guns in “sensitive places,” then mapping those principles onto modern venues that didn’t exist when the Second or Fourteenth Amendments were ratified.
The Third Circuit’s Taylor Swift Comparison

Ebert spotlights the Third Circuit’s Sept. 10 decision, which leaned into analogy. “While our forebearers may have enjoyed waltzes in ballrooms instead of Taylor Swift concerts in sports arenas,” the majority wrote, the public’s expectation of safety “during leisure has endured,” supporting New Jersey’s ban in large, crowded spaces. Regardless of whether one cheers or groans at the pop-culture flourish, the majority’s method was classic post-Bruen: identify historical limits (legislatures, courts, polling places) and argue the underlying rationale – protecting civic order and vulnerable gatherings – can legitimately translate to modern stadiums.
A Post-Bruen Trend, Six Circuits and Counting

Ebert cites Janet Carter of Everytown Law, who says “six circuits since Bruen and Rahimi have largely upheld sensitive-places restrictions,” reflecting growing judicial comfort with location-based bans in parks, zoos, beaches, and entertainment districts. This isn’t nothing. After Bruen, many predicted a legal winter for public-carry limits. Instead, in blue-state litigation hotbeds in particular, courts are converging on a common theory: history supports keeping guns out of crowded and purpose-built spaces where the risk calculus is different.
The Countercurrent: Dissenters Warn of a History Gap

But Ebert also reports real friction. Third Circuit Judge David James Porter, in partial dissent, warned that the absence of founding-era bans on amphitheaters or football stadiums isn’t anachronistic trivia – it cuts against declaring them “sensitive.” Early Americans, he argued, could imagine such venues; they read classical history, followed foreign news, and attended large spectacles. Meanwhile, Pennsylvania litigator Dillon Harris told Ebert that some judges seem to be “making a decision and working backwards,” using history as after-the-fact validation rather than a guardrail.
How to Analogize the Past to the Present

Ebert quotes David Pucino of Giffords Law Center to push back: the law doesn’t require identical historical twins – only analogues that reflect the original public meaning. The gist: no one expects a founding-era statute about MetLife Stadium or a Swift stadium tour, but we can look to principles – like rules governing courts, polling places, or houses of government – and ask whether the same concerns (dense crowds, heightened security needs, risk of panic and stampede) justify modern analogues. Whether that’s faithful history or mission creep is exactly where the fight now lives.
The “Vampire Law” Fight Over Private Property

Ebert also flags a different fault line that could draw the Supreme Court back in: default rules on private property. The Ninth Circuit last year rejected California’s “no-guns by default unless posted otherwise” approach but upheld Hawaii’s softer rule allowing owners to consent orally, in writing, or with signage. Researchers like Leo Bernabei dub these “vampire laws” (you have to be invited in) and suspect the Court may step in to cabin them. The Trump Justice Department is already urging the justices to set guardrails. Shira Lauren Feldman of Brady adds a twist Ebert emphasizes: there are property-owner rights at stake too – your right to exclude guns from your land. That tension, carriers’ rights versus owners’ rights, isn’t easily solved by slogans.
Enter Mark W. Smith: Courts Are Overreading “Sensitive Places”

On his Four Boxes Diner channel, Mark W. Smith reads Ebert’s piece as evidence that some lower courts are drifting toward a de facto “crowded equals sensitive” rule, which he calls a euphemism for government-mandated gun-free zones. Smith’s core claim: the Supreme Court has already warned against turning “everywhere people congregate” into a carve-out from the right to bear arms. He’s not quibbling with Ebert’s reporting; he’s disputing the jurisprudential trend the article describes.
Bruen, Heller, and Why Lower-Court Consensus Doesn’t Bind SCOTUS

Smith reminds viewers that the Supreme Court often ignores lower-court consensus. Before Heller (2008), nearly every circuit said the Second Amendment wasn’t an individual right; Heller said otherwise. Before Bruen (2022), circuits embraced a two-step, interest-balancing test; Bruen scrapped it. Smith was quoted by Ebert saying the Court “does not care one iota” if appellate courts converge on a theory that shrinks the right to carry. In his view, today’s sensitive-place expansions rhyme with yesterday’s now-defunct two-step: popular with circuits until the justices pull the plug.
Crowds Aren’t Enough: The Manhattan Example

Smith leans on Bruen’s own language: New York’s attempt to deem all places of public congregation “sensitive” was rejected; otherwise the state could declare Manhattan off-limits and “eviscerate” the right to carry. He also stresses a practical limiting principle: where the government assumes a duty of protection by providing comprehensive security (legislatures, courthouses, polling sites), history supports tighter rules. Where it doesn’t – where police are merely “presumptively available” – crowds alone shouldn’t erase a constitutional right.
Original Understanding: John Adams in Boston, 1770

To buttress his historical case, Smith cites John Adams’s remarks during the Boston Massacre trials acknowledging civilians’ right to bear arms in the heart of colonial Boston – arguably the most crowded, politically charged space in New England. For Smith, that acknowledgment undercuts the claim that density itself made a place “sensitive.” He concedes rules against offensive conduct existed, but sees no founding-era tradition of sweeping peacetime carry bans wherever people gathered to shop, worship, or watch performances.
The Real Battleground Is Line-Drawing

Both Ebert’s reporting and Smith’s critique can be true at once. Lower courts are coalescing around broader sensitive-place theories, especially in blue jurisdictions, and the Supreme Court may eventually pare those back. The most volatile terrain isn’t stadiums per se (which typically feature magnetometers, bag checks, armed security, and ticketed ingress) but the gray zones: open-air entertainment districts, beaches on holiday weekends, transit platforms, or public parks during festivals.
The closer a location looks to a secured, government-run checkpoint environment, the stronger the analogue to historical sensitive places. The more a location is simply crowded, without state-provided security and custody-like control, the weaker the analogy.
Where This Goes Next – and Why Taylor Swift Won’t Decide It

If the Supreme Court reenters the fray, I suspect it will be via the private-property defaults Ebert flags – the “vampire law” question that pits carriers’ rights against owners’ rights and raises clean, cert-worthy lines. Stadium bans with robust security will likely survive; sprawling “no-carry by default” zones for entire cities probably won’t.
As for Taylor Swift, she’s a rhetorical hook, not the constitutional hinge. Alex Ebert has captured a genuine trend; Mark W. Smith is right that the justices may not let that trend run unchecked. Between those poles lies the real work: drawing rules that reflect history, honor property rights, and don’t reduce a constitutional guarantee to whatever happens to draw a crowd.

A former park ranger and wildlife conservationist, Lisa’s passion for survival started with her deep connection to nature. Raised on a small farm in northern Wisconsin, she learned how to grow her own food, raise livestock, and live off the land. Lisa is our dedicated Second Amendment news writer and also focuses on homesteading, natural remedies, and survival strategies. Lisa aims to help others live more sustainably and prepare for the unexpected.
































