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Magazine Claims Stand Your Ground Excludes LGBT Gun Owners

Magazine Claims Stand Your Ground Excludes LGBT Gun Owners
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Gun rights YouTuber Liberty Doll is pushing back on a Slate article that she says wrongly framed a Wyoming criminal case as proof that Stand Your Ground laws and the Second Amendment do not apply equally to trans people or other minorities.

In her recent video, Liberty Doll said she initially thought the case might be another example of a gun owner being punished despite claiming self-defense, especially because the article described a trans person being assaulted outside a bar and then charged after drawing a firearm.

After reading more of the case details, however, Liberty Doll said she came to a different conclusion. In her view, the issue was not that the person was trans, or that LGBT people are excluded from self-defense protections, but that the facts described in court records and local reports made the claim of self-defense much harder to support.

That distinction matters. LGBT gun owners deserve the same right to defend themselves as anyone else, and that includes the right to carry, the right to be judged fairly, and the right not to be treated more harshly because of who they are. But Liberty Doll’s argument is that equal rights also come with the same legal limits that apply to every armed person, especially when a confrontation escalates before a gun is drawn.

A Slate Headline Sparks The Dispute

Liberty Doll said the Slate article centered on Rihanna Kelver, a trans person who was outside the Crowbar Bar and Grill in Wyoming when a confrontation broke out with three men across the street.

According to Liberty Doll’s summary of Slate’s version, the men allegedly yelled homophobic and transphobic slurs, one of them approached and shoved Kelver, and Kelver then drew a firearm, racked the slide, and pointed it at the man who had pushed them.

A Slate Headline Sparks The Dispute
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Kelver was later charged with aggravated assault and possession of a deadly weapon with unlawful intent, along with a separate misdemeanor interference with a peace officer charge, according to Liberty Doll.

Slate, as Liberty Doll described it, treated the case as an example of anti-trans bias and argued that Kelver should be protected by Stand Your Ground principles.

Liberty Doll disagreed with that framing, saying the available facts do not show a clean Stand Your Ground case. She said the case is more about how self-defense law works when someone who is armed moves toward a confrontation instead of avoiding it.

Her point was not that anti-LGBT bias cannot exist in the justice system. It can, and many LGBT people have good reason to worry about whether police, prosecutors, judges, or juries will treat them fairly. The stronger question here is whether this specific case proves what Slate said it proves.

Liberty Doll Says The Facts Are More Complicated

According to Liberty Doll, some parts of Slate’s summary were true. Kelver was outside the bar around 10 p.m. on September 13, 2025, three men across the street shouted something toward the bar, and Kelver eventually pulled a gun.

Where Liberty Doll said the story changed was in the details of who escalated the encounter and why.

She said one man, identified in the video as Durham, allegedly yelled something hostile about the Crowbar, though there was disagreement over whether the remark included slurs or was simply an insult toward the bar. Liberty Doll said that, by Kelver’s own court affidavit, the comment seemed to create concern because the bar had previously dealt with hateful vandalism and complaints about pride flags.

That context is important because threats against LGBT spaces should be taken seriously. A bar known for pride flags or LGBT customers can become a target, and it is not unreasonable for someone working there to be alert when strangers yell hostile comments at the business.

Still, Liberty Doll said the legal issue is whether the comments created an immediate threat of serious bodily harm to Kelver personally. She argued that they did not, at least based on the facts she reviewed.

She said Kelver did not go back into the bar, even though that would have been the safer choice. Instead, Liberty Doll said, Kelver yelled back and crossed the street while confronting the men.

The Confrontation In The Crosswalk

Liberty Doll said surveillance video and witness statements showed Kelver approaching the men with a hand in their bag before getting in Durham’s face.

The Confrontation In The Crosswalk
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According to her account, Durham then shoved Kelver away, causing Kelver to stumble backward and fall. Liberty Doll said Kelver then pulled out a teal .380 handgun, racked it, and pointed it at Durham, who she said appeared to be walking away.

The video did not have audio, Liberty Doll noted, which leaves some uncertainty about exactly what was said in the moment.

Kelver has said they feared becoming the victim of a hate crime, according to Liberty Doll, and that fear should not be dismissed lightly. LGBT people, and especially trans people, often face threats that others may not immediately understand, and a hostile street encounter outside a bar can carry real fear because of that broader reality.

But Liberty Doll focused on another statement she said Kelver made: that the gun’s safety remained on and that they had no real intention of using the firearm.

To Liberty Doll, that detail weakens the legal self-defense argument because deadly force is generally tied to a claim that the person reasonably believed it was necessary to prevent death or serious injury.

In her view, the case was not about whether Kelver had a right to own or carry a firearm. It was about whether drawing and pointing it was legally justified under the circumstances.

The Police Statement Became Another Problem

Liberty Doll also said Kelver’s statement to police created serious issues for the defense.

According to her report, Kelver initially told police that they had pulled a knife, not a gun, and described it as a small spring-loaded item that never fully opened. Kelver also allegedly told police the gun was in the glove box of their car.

The knife was not found, Liberty Doll said, and surveillance video showed a gun.

Liberty Doll said Kelver later denied lying and described being confused and disoriented, citing psychiatric diagnoses including bipolar disorder, ADHD, and PTSD as conditions affecting memory.

As a former therapist, Liberty Doll said she does not believe those diagnoses should automatically prevent someone from owning a firearm. However, she argued that telling police you could not be trusted to accurately remember whether you pulled a gun or a knife is not helpful in a defensive gun case.

That is a fair point from a legal strategy perspective, though it should be handled carefully. Mental health diagnoses should not be used as a cheap attack on someone’s credibility or rights, especially when many responsible gun owners live with mental health conditions. The issue here is narrower: once a person offers inconsistent statements to police, prosecutors may use those inconsistencies to challenge the self-defense claim.

What Stand Your Ground May Not Cover

Liberty Doll said Kelver filed a motion to dismiss the charges based on self-defense, but a judge allowed the case to move forward to district court after a preliminary hearing.

What Stand Your Ground May Not Cover
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She noted that judges rarely dismiss cases at preliminary hearings and often leave self-defense questions for a jury, where the facts can be tested more fully.

According to Liberty Doll, the central legal question may involve Wyoming law punishing a person who threatens to use a drawn deadly weapon unless that threat is reasonably necessary to defend the person, property, home, or another person from serious bodily injury.

She also discussed Stand Your Ground, saying there is no duty to retreat when a person uses reasonable defensive force, as long as they are not committing a crime and are not the initial aggressor.

For Liberty Doll, the likely courtroom problem is that Kelver allegedly crossed the street, confronted the men, admitted to having no intention of firing, and gave a false statement to police.

Those facts, she argued, may undermine a Stand Your Ground argument because the law does not give an armed person permission to create or escalate a confrontation and then claim full protection after the situation turns physical.

That is an important lesson for all gun owners, including LGBT gun owners who may carry because they face real threats. The law may protect self-defense, but it does not protect every bad draw, every angry confrontation, or every decision made while armed.

Supporting LGBT Gun Rights Without Ignoring The Law

Supporting LGBT Gun Rights Without Ignoring The Law
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Liberty Doll said the case should not be framed as proof that the Second Amendment or Stand Your Ground laws do not apply to trans people.

Instead, she said it shows the importance of knowing state law, not escalating while armed, and not speaking to police without a lawyer after a defensive gun incident.

That message can sit alongside a strong pro-LGBT position. LGBT people have the same natural and constitutional right to protect themselves as anyone else, especially in a country where threats and harassment against them remain real. When an LGBT person is genuinely attacked or reasonably fears serious harm, the law should not treat them as less worthy of self-defense because of their identity.

At the same time, equal treatment means the facts still matter. A person’s status as a member of a vulnerable group can explain why a situation felt threatening, but it does not automatically answer whether drawing a gun was legally reasonable.

Liberty Doll said she would never cross the street toward people she believed might harm her while she was armed. As both a gun owner and a woman, she said she would have gone back inside the workplace, where other people and witnesses were present, rather than move toward the danger.

That may be the clearest practical takeaway from her video.

For LGBT gun owners, the right to self-defense should be defended without apology. But the responsibility that comes with carrying a firearm is also real, and this case, as Liberty Doll presents it, may turn less on identity and more on escalation, statements to police, and whether a jury believes the gun was reasonably necessary in that exact moment.

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