Gun Owners Radio hosts Michael Schwartz and Alisha Curtin opened their segment with a practical dilemma from a listener they called “M” in San Diego: how do you fly home to California with a collection of family-owned handguns, and what happens after you land? Schwartz and Curtin used M’s scenario to walk through the travel rules, the California 60-day registration clock, and the common traps that get people in trouble. Their bottom line was clear: follow airline procedures to the letter, then meet California’s deadline – or risk serious legal consequences.
Start With The Airline’s Rules

Schwartz’s first move is simple and smart: visit your airline’s website, find the firearms policy, print it, and highlight the key lines. He carries that copy in his pocket at the airport. Why? Because policies vary, employees rotate, and misunderstandings happen. Having the airline’s own words handy lets you politely point to the rulebook if a disagreement pops up at the counter. Curtin backed this as a best practice—especially in a tense post-9/11 travel environment where clear documentation calms nerves and keeps you moving.
Declare, Unload, Lock – Every Time

From there, Schwartz laid out the basics that never change. The gun must be completely unloaded. It must ride in a locked, hard-sided container. It goes in checked baggage, never in a carry-on. Ammunition should be separate – at least in a separate container – and magazines out of the firearm and empty. At the ticket counter, declare the firearm right away and follow the agent’s instructions. Curtin emphasized that a decent padlock on the case matters too. These steps sound boring, but they’re the backbone of a smooth trip.
Expect Variations At TSA

Schwartz has flown with firearms multiple times and says what happens after you declare can differ from airport to airport and even agent to agent. Sometimes they inspect the case right there. Sometimes you’re sent to TSA for screening. Sometimes the process is hands-off once you’ve declared. The trick, he says, is to be polite, follow their lead, and have that printed policy in your back pocket. Curtin agreed: the process is standardized on paper, but it can still feel different city to city.
The 60-Day California Rule Starts On Arrival

The travel part is only half the journey. Schwartz and Curtin say once you bring a firearm into California, you have 60 days to register it with the state. They direct newcomers and returning residents to CFARS (the California Firearms Application Reporting System) to file the report. Curtin notes you’ll also need a valid Firearm Safety Certificate (FSC). Miss the 60-day window, and the state’s message is not subtle – thus the show’s warning title: “Bringing Guns Into California? You Have 60 Days or Face Felony.” Their point isn’t drama; it’s urgency.
What CFARS Means In Practice

Schwartz describes CFARS as the California DOJ portal used for a bunch of firearm filings, including new-resident registration. Curtin’s guidance is straightforward: set aside time, have your FSC, and work through the online forms promptly after you arrive. They did not deep-dive every field of the system on air, but their tone was unmistakable – don’t wait, don’t assume a handshake or a moving truck receipt covers you, and don’t rely on hearsay. File it and get proof of submission inside the 60-day deadline.
Magazines And “Assault Weapon” Features

The hosts then hit two classic California pitfalls. First, magazines: Schwartz cautioned that magazines over 10 rounds are not legal to import into the state. If you’re relocating with larger mags, do not bring them across the border. Second, features: he reminded viewers to check whether a particular pistol or rifle configuration would count as an “assault weapon” under California law. Curtin echoed the point: transporting a gun that violates California’s feature restrictions can get you in trouble fast. In short, verify your setup before you move.
The Handgun Roster: What It Does – And Doesn’t – Do

Many people freeze up when they realize their handgun isn’t on California’s Roster of Certified Handguns. Schwartz cleared the air: the roster limits what FFLs can sell to the general public, not what you can own or bring with you when you move. That’s why private-party transfers can involve “off-roster” guns – because the roster governs dealer sales, not possession by lawful owners. Curtin agreed and stressed that the listener’s situation – already owning the firearm out of state – falls into a different box than buying from a store in California.
Inheritance, Gifts, And Family Transfers

Schwartz added that the details change if the firearm is inherited or given as a gift. For intrafamilial transfers, he says you’ll also use CFARS to record the transfer properly. Curtin flagged another trap: don’t call it a “gift” if money exchanged hands. California treats sham gifts as straw purchases or illegal transfers, and that can spiral. If you inherited the gun, keep documentation; if it was gifted, make sure it really was. The names are similar, but the paperwork paths aren’t.
TSA Locks: Optional – With Real Tradeoffs

One of the most useful clarifications came when Schwartz addressed locks. Do you need a TSA-approved lock on the firearm case? No. You may use one, but you’re not required to. If you pick a TSA lock, agents can open the case without you. If you don’t, they’ll need to call you to open it if they want a closer look. Curtin called it a pros-and-cons choice: a TSA lock means less waiting if they need access; a non-TSA lock means more control and a paper trail when the case opens.
Do A Final Sweep Before You Fly

The hosts finished with the mistakes they’ve seen most: people use their range bag as a carry-on and forget there’s ammo, casings, or even an empty magazine tucked in a pocket. Schwartz’s advice is to do a full cleanout of both checked and carry-on luggage the night before the flight. Loose rounds or brass can trigger delays and questions you don’t want at the checkpoint. Curtin added a common-sense check: keep anything firearm-related with the checked gun case, not your backpack or purse.
Simple Habits Prevent Big Problems

What struck me in Schwartz and Curtin’s discussion is how simple habits prevent big problems. Printing the airline policy feels old-school, but it defuses arguments fast. Declaring the firearm with confidence reduces suspicion. And treating the 60-day CFARS deadline like a hard stop keeps you off a prosecutor’s radar. The legal landscape in California is dense and often counterintuitive; the show’s step-by-step tone turns a maze into a checklist.
A Practical Playbook For Movers

I also found their roster clarification refreshing. Newcomers hear “off-roster” and panic, when the real questions are features, mag limits, and timely registration. Their advice functions like a playbook: check your configuration, bring only compliant magazines, file CFARS promptly with your FSC, and keep records of ownership, gifts, or inheritance. None of that is flashy, but it’s how you land, unpack, and stay legal without drama.
The Bottom Line: Sixty Days, No Excuses

Gun Owners Radio’s Michael Schwartz and Alisha Curtin deliver a clear message: fly by the airline’s book, then live by California’s clock. That means unloaded, locked, declared on the flight in checked baggage, and registered via CFARS within 60 days after you arrive – with an FSC in hand. Leave the over-10-round mags behind, verify your gun’s features, document gifts or inheritances, and think twice before using a range bag as a carry-on. Their segment’s title – “…Face Felony” – captures the stakes. Their details show how to avoid them.

A former park ranger and wildlife conservationist, Lisa’s passion for survival started with her deep connection to nature. Raised on a small farm in northern Wisconsin, she learned how to grow her own food, raise livestock, and live off the land. Lisa is our dedicated Second Amendment news writer and also focuses on homesteading, natural remedies, and survival strategies. Lisa aims to help others live more sustainably and prepare for the unexpected.

































