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Silver prices slide again as fraud claims in China fuel worries the metal has more room to drop

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Silver prices slide again as fraud claims in China fuel worries the metal has more room to drop
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Eurodollar University host Jeffrey Snider opens his latest breakdown with a blunt point: the precious-metals selloff didn’t end with last week’s shock, and silver in particular is still getting hit as fresh unease spreads out of China.

Snider says the market had already been teetering after what he calls a “dramatic” move higher that turned into a crash, and now a couple of China-linked stories about “irregularities” and potential fraud are acting like lighter fluid on an already nervous trade.

The way he frames it, this is what you often see after a bubble-like frenzy: the price shoots higher, belief becomes contagious, and then once the momentum breaks, the ugly stories start surfacing – stories that were either hidden, ignored, or simply didn’t matter when everyone thought the price could only go up.

The Crash That Reset The Mood Overnight

Snider walks through the numbers because he thinks the scale matters, not just the headline that “silver fell.”

He says Friday’s selling slammed silver down into the $85 range from a Wednesday high near $117, and at one point it reportedly traded around $73, a move he describes as close to a 40% intraday crash before late buying cut that to about 26% by the close.

The Crash That Reset The Mood Overnight
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That kind of swing isn’t a normal “healthy pullback,” and Snider treats it like evidence that the market had stopped behaving like a market and started behaving like a stampede.

Over the weekend, he says prices seemed to steady, but the mood didn’t. By Monday morning, he says selling showed up again, with silver down roughly 7% at the time he checked, after being down as much as 10% intraday, and he notes an intraday low just under $72 an ounce.

Snider adds that gold is getting dragged too, not because gold suddenly has the same speculative profile as silver, but because when the smaller, wilder sibling gets pushed off a cliff, it can pull the whole family toward the edge for a while.

He describes gold trading just below $4,700, down about 14% from a recent record high, and he argues that a correction there was overdue even before silver’s panic took off.

What jumps out in Snider’s tone is that he’s not surprised by the reversal; he’s more focused on explaining why the run-up was fragile in the first place, and why a market that goes up like an elevator can come down the same way.

Why China Becomes The Flashpoint When Frenzies Break

Snider says the China angle matters because it’s where a lot of the buying energy was concentrated, and it’s also where, in his view, you’re more likely to see the kind of dealer overreach that only becomes obvious when the tide turns.

He describes a pattern he says shows up in commodity frenzies, especially when physical supply is tight: some dealers take customer money for metal they don’t actually have, then try to source it later through a chain of wholesalers who also may be promising delivery they can’t guarantee.

In that setup, everyone is effectively “short” physical metal, and it works – until it doesn’t. Once prices start falling, customers who thought they were sitting on easy profits suddenly want either the metal in hand or their money back, and that’s where the promises get tested.

Snider reads from one report describing chaotic scenes at what he calls China’s biggest bullion hub, where customers showed up demanding “money and metal,” and some were startled by a company’s apparent inability to release funds in full.

He emphasizes the human texture of it – people traveling in from other parts of the country, some bringing children, and even scuffles with police mentioned in the report—because, in his telling, that’s what a busted mania looks like when it stops being a chart and becomes a crowd.

He says the report describes “hundreds of small and medium-sized investment vehicles” using social media to pull retail investors into gold’s run with the promise of quick profits, and he treats that as the kind of pipeline that can turn ordinary buying into something unstable.

Snider’s bigger point is that once the story becomes “it’s going up, so it must keep going up,” the market becomes vulnerable to exactly this kind of stress, because belief replaces balance.

“The Hat,” Unfinished Deals, And The Smell Of A Blow-Up

Then Snider pivots to the story he suggests could be even bigger, depending on how it develops: a trading network linked to a metals dealer nicknamed “the hat.”

“The Hat,” Unfinished Deals, And The Smell Of A Blow Up
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He reads from another report claiming Chinese metal traders have suffered losses totaling at least 1 billion yuan (about $144 million), after a counterparty fled the country and left deals unfinished, which Snider says has alarmed regulators already worried about hidden financial risks.

In the account he shares, a state-backed participant is mentioned as the highest-profile name involved, and the report describes a chain reaction: one party is owed money for shipments of copper and other metals, and that party in turn owes money to suppliers, so you end up with multiple layers of people short both metal and cash.

Snider doesn’t claim to know every detail, and he openly notes that stories like this—especially from China—can still be early and messy. But he also says the general shape fits what you’d expect after an overextended rally: weak hands get exposed, and the most unrealistic promises break first.

What makes this feel important in his telling is not the nickname or the drama, but the timing. These kinds of revelations tend to hit when confidence is already cracked, which means they can deepen the selloff by adding a new fear: not just “prices are falling,” but “someone might not make good on delivery or payment.”

Snider argues that even the possibility of problems like that can keep buyers sidelined and entice more sellers to rush for the exit, and that feedback loop is how corrections turn into stampedes.

From a practical standpoint, I think this is the part regular investors underestimate: when a market is fragile, bad stories don’t just hurt sentiment – they can disrupt the basic willingness to transact, which is poison for any trade that was depending on constant new buying.

How Far Could Silver Fall If The Market “Round-Trips” The Mania?

Snider’s next move is to ask the uncomfortable question most people avoid once they’re already down: where’s the bottom?

He says one way to frame the downside is to look at other “supply squeeze” episodes, and he points to copper as a nearby example with a similar storyline – panic buying, policy fears, inventories getting yanked around, and then sharp reversals that nearly unwind the entire rally.

How Far Could Silver Fall If The Market “Round Trips” The Mania
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He runs through three copper squeezes from the last couple of years, describing each as a surge driven by fear – sometimes China demand, sometimes tariff anxiety – followed by a reversal that took copper back close to where it started.

His implication is simple: if copper’s squeezes “round-tripped,” silver’s can too, especially because the last stretch of silver’s move looked, in his words, like something closer to a momentum frenzy than a fundamentals-driven climb.

He also points out that the wildest buying in silver showed up around $50 an ounce, and he treats that level as a psychologically realistic place the market could revisit if the mania keeps unwinding.

Then he brings in a tool he’s mentioned before: the gold-to-silver ratio, which he says highlighted how far silver had run ahead.

Snider notes that before Friday’s crash, the ratio dropped to around 45, which he says was the lowest since 2011, the last time silver saw a squeeze of similar magnitude – and he reminds viewers that 2011 “did not end well for silver either.”

After silver fell much harder than gold, he says the ratio popped back up to just over 60, but he stresses that’s still far from where it lived for much of the 2010s and 2020s, when it tended to settle more in the 80 to 90 range because gold had steadier safe-haven demand than silver.

Working from that range, Snider sketches a downside map: if the ratio returns to 80, that could imply silver around $58 given where gold was trading at the time; if it returns to 90, it could imply silver around $52.

But he also warns that gold itself may have further downside in this correction, and if gold drops toward something like $4,000, the math could drag silver under $50 as well.

He’s careful not to claim certainty, but he leans on a hard-earned market lesson: big moves often overshoot on the way up and on the way down, so it wouldn’t be shocking if the unwind goes further than anyone currently expects.

That’s a cold thing to say when people are staring at losses, but it’s also the kind of realism that prevents someone from treating a falling knife like a “guaranteed bargain.”

The Part Snider Keeps Coming Back To: It Wasn’t The Dollar Story

One of Snider’s biggest themes is that the popular narrative people latched onto during the run – what he describes as “dollar debasement” doom talk – was never convincingly confirmed by anything outside precious metals.

He says that as silver and gold surged, many people treated it like a signal that the dollar was collapsing, and the higher the metals went, the more plausible the story sounded, which pulled in even more buyers.

The Part Snider Keeps Coming Back To It Wasn’t The Dollar Story
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But Snider argues that if that narrative were truly driving reality, you’d expect to see confirmation elsewhere, and he points to a major example: Treasury yields, which he says had been steady for months, undermining the idea that markets were suddenly screaming inflation panic.

He also argues that in China, a lot of the buying had nothing to do with the US dollar at all, and instead looks like a search for “safe havens” in a place where other asset classes feel unattractive or unstable.

In his view, that’s the real long-run backdrop: not a Hollywood-style currency collapse story, but a grinding environment of deflationary risk, policy uncertainty, and a preference for assets that feel like shelter.

That’s why he keeps repeating the phrase in different ways: short-run pain, long-run fundamentals. He’s basically saying, “The reasons people bought metals originally may still exist, but the market still has to burn off the excess first.”

My own take is that this is where a lot of people get emotionally trapped – because they mix up “the long-term thesis might still be intact” with “the price can’t possibly drop further,” and those are not the same thing.

Snider’s warning is less about predicting an exact number and more about respecting how markets behave after a frenzy: once price action becomes the reason people buy, the reversal tends to be brutal, and the cleanup process can feel unfair even to people who weren’t gambling.

What Comes After The Shakeout

Snider ends up sounding almost patient about the bigger picture, even while describing an ugly short-run unwind.

He argues that what’s happening now is the market trying to reset toward fundamentals, flushing out bad leverage, bad promises, and bad narratives, and that the China stories – whether they grow or fade – fit the pattern of stress that shows up when a parabolic move snaps.

The key, in his framing, is what happens when the dust settles: whether metals can return to demand rooted in actual economic risk and safe-haven behavior, rather than a speculative frenzy that treated silver like a meme trade.

If you’re watching this from the outside, Snider’s breakdown is a reminder that markets don’t just move on charts; they move through people, through trust, through delivery chains, and through narratives that can turn into stampedes.

And if you’re watching it from the inside – with money on the line – it’s a reminder that the most dangerous part of any mania isn’t the top, it’s the moment after, when the stories start coming out and everyone realizes the market was thinner, shakier, and more human than it looked during the climb.

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