On Redacted, hosts Clayton Morris and Natali Morris brought in attorney John Bryan – who calls himself “the Civil Rights Lawyer” – to weigh a question that has been hanging over the Minnesota protest shooting they were discussing: if victim Alex Pretti was carrying a 9mm handgun concealed in a hip holster at an anti-ICE protest, could he legally do that, and what rights does a person have in that moment.
Clayton Morris framed it in plain terms, asking what rights “this individual” has, and what rights other Americans have in similar situations, when they show up to a protest armed but not actively using the weapon.
John Bryan immediately narrowed his lane, telling Clayton and Natali that he is not a Minnesota lawyer and he is not trying to give “advice” on protesting in Minneapolis right now, which is his way of saying he’s not going to play internet-judge on the fine print of state carry statutes.
But Bryan also made it clear that, in his view, the bigger legal and moral issue isn’t a technical carry question at all, because he’s focused on what he describes as masked federal agents disarming someone and then shooting him, followed by federal officials quickly going on television to claim the man attacked them with a gun.
Bryan’s point, as he tells it, is that multiple bystander videos show a different story than what the public was initially told, and he views that gap as a warning sign of something darker than a messy incident at a protest.
And while Clayton and Natali are the ones asking about the right to carry, Bryan keeps swinging the camera back toward ICE-style federal enforcement at protests, because he believes this is what “civil liberties getting destroyed” looks like in real time – fast-moving, poorly explained, and then covered with official talking points.
Bryan’s Objection: Disarm First, Shoot Later
John Bryan tells Clayton and Natali that what he cannot get past is the idea of federal officers “disarming somebody, then shooting him,” and then watching federal officials go public with a narrative that he says is contradicted by the videos people can watch with their own eyes.
He describes it as federal officers operating in what he calls a “constitution-free zone,” meaning they act like constitutional limits are optional when they’re in the field, and like public accountability is something they can simply ignore.
In Bryan’s view, the most basic right on the table is not the right to protest or the right to carry, but the right “not to be shot to death by our government” when it’s unnecessary or unjustified, which he ties to the Fourth Amendment and the standard that force has to be justified under the circumstances.
He says it appears to him – and to other people watching – that what happened fits the pattern of unjustified killing, and he sounds frustrated not just by the alleged act, but by the system around it, because he asks, “what is to be done about it,” as if the answer is always slower than the harm.
Clayton Morris pushes the conversation forward by bringing up masking, and he links it to another death he references, Renee Good, saying the same question came up there too: how do we know who we’re dealing with, and why does it matter.
That’s where the conversation stops being only about one protest and one victim, and turns into a broader argument about how federal power behaves in crowds, especially when the crowd is politically inconvenient.
Masked Federal Agents And The Accountability Hole
When Clayton asks what could go wrong with masked federal agents roaming around anonymously, John Bryan answers with a kind of grim sarcasm, because to him it’s self-evident that a government that can hide its agents’ identities is a government that’s making it harder for the public to demand accountability later.
Bryan says it’s a terrible idea, and he adds a political twist that’s meant to sting: he argues the “right” has historically opposed masked, anonymous government power, but now some people are excusing it because they like the immigration policy goals attached to it.
Then he gives the warning that sits at the heart of his argument, saying people may be okay with it “right now” because they support immigration enforcement, but what happens “in four years” when someone else is in charge and the same masked tactics are used against a different political target.
Bryan paints a vivid example for Clayton and Natali, describing a future where masked federal agents are sent to a Second Amendment protest – he mentions Virginia, where open carry at the state capital can be common – and he asks what happens when those agents disarm someone and shoot him, and then the administration calls the victim an “insurrectionist” and declares it justified.
Natali Morris jumps in to underline the political whiplash, noting that many of the same people from prior administrations remain inside federal agencies like ICE and Customs and Border Patrol, which to her means people should stop pretending these agencies magically change personality just because a new president is on TV.
Clayton adds that time moves fast and public memory is short, and the subtext is clear: if you build a system that can crush your rights quickly, you don’t get to choose who it crushes later.
From a practical standpoint, and frankly a human one, it’s hard not to see the danger in protest policing that starts with ambiguity and ends with force, because protests are already chaotic, and adding masked federal enforcement can turn confusion into tragedy before anyone even understands who is shouting orders.
If ICE and other federal teams want public trust at protests, Bryan’s critique suggests the opposite approach is needed – clear identity, clear rules, clear accountability – because hiding faces while claiming sweeping authority is how you create fear and escalation, not safety.
The Carry Debate And The “Official Story” Problem
Clayton Morris raises a comparison he thinks matters politically, bringing up Republicans defending Kyle Rittenhouse having a gun at a Black Lives Matter protest, and he argues that defense “falls flat” if those same people now claim someone like Pretti couldn’t have been armed at a protest.
Bryan agrees that the contradiction is obvious, but he goes further, saying he hopes people see “the mask has been pulled off” federal officials who have been “cosplaying” as Second Amendment supporters, because in his view authoritarian instincts exist on both sides and they tend to show up when citizens exercise rights in public.
He mentions officials making statements like, if you go to a protest armed you “may get shot,” and he treats that as an unacceptable standard, because “may get shot” becomes a threat disguised as advice, especially when it’s coming from people with power.
Then Bryan returns to what he says the video evidence shows: he says yes, the man had a firearm, but it does not appear he ever took it out of the holster, and he describes federal agents jumping on him, pulling the gun from the holster, and then the man being shot and killed.
In Bryan’s telling, that means the gun was used as the excuse after the fact, not the cause in the moment, and that distinction matters because it goes directly to whether force was “objectively reasonable,” which is the legal lens Bryan wants applied instead of political spin.
This is where the “official story collapsing” theme comes in, because Bryan isn’t only arguing about rights; he’s arguing about narrative control, and he’s warning that when federal agencies control the storyline quickly, the public is pushed into reacting to a script instead of facts.
And when that script is used to justify aggressive ICE-style protest enforcement, it’s not hard to see why critics call it intimidation, because the message becomes: show up, comply instantly, do not question, and if something goes wrong, the story will be written without you.
From Protests To Homes: The “Administrative Warrant” Problem
Clayton Morris shifts the conversation to searches and seizures, bringing up Larry Johnson – described on the show as a former CIA agent and NRA gun trainer – who compares modern warrantless actions to what Americans fought against in the Revolutionary War, with government agents entering homes without proper legal limits.
John Bryan responds by pointing viewers to a lengthy discussion he says he had with Patrick Jakamo of the Institute for Justice, explaining that this group is fighting to hold federal officials accountable when civil rights are violated, even though the legal path is “very, very complicated.”
Bryan zeroes in on the administration’s claim, as he describes it, that federal agents can enter homes based on a so-called “administrative warrant,” and he says Jakamo refused to even call it a warrant because, in that explanation, it’s essentially “one ICE officer giving a piece of paper to another ICE officer” granting permission to go into a house.
In Bryan’s view, that’s not a loophole, that’s an end-run around the Fourth Amendment, and he calls the home “the most protected place” under the Bill of Rights, insisting those protections are non-negotiable no matter what political cause is being used to justify the shortcut.
He warns that if conservatives – or anyone – shrug at it now because they want deportations, they are laying down a track that can later be used against gun owners, political opponents, or whoever becomes the next convenient target.
This is also where being critical of ICE becomes unavoidable, because Bryan’s underlying accusation is that ICE-like enforcement has normalized a mindset of “we authorize ourselves,” and when a federal agency starts treating judge oversight as optional, the public is left with power that is fast, mobile, and barely answerable.
Why Bryan Says Court Is The Only Place To Win
For all the anger in the conversation, Bryan’s advice is surprisingly restrained: he tells Clayton and Natali that people shouldn’t try to fight federal officers “on the streets,” because that’s not where constitutional limits are enforced, and it may be exactly the confrontation the system wants.
He argues the fight has to happen in court, and he repeatedly says litigation is the tool that can actually force policy changes, naming law firms like the Institute for Justice as an example of groups that sue governments “24/7.”
Bryan also warns about the political aftermath of chaotic incidents, saying events like this become the justification for new laws, more funding, more power, and more restrictions—he compares it to how the Patriot Act expanded authority under the banner of safety.
Clayton and Natali agree with the basic strategy, with Clayton saying litigation backed the Biden administration down on censorship in the past and forced changes elsewhere too, and Natali framing it as “we litigate our values,” meaning rights survive when someone is willing to drag power into a courtroom and make it answer questions.
Still, the grim takeaway from their discussion is that protest policing and immigration enforcement are colliding in a way that tempts the federal government to act first and explain later, and Bryan is warning that when ICE and other federal actors treat protest crowds like enemy territory, civil rights get trampled in the same rush.
If the question is whether Alex Pretti could legally carry at that protest, Redacted’s segment almost treats it like a trap door, because the deeper question they keep returning to is simpler and scarier: when federal agents show up masked, disarm a person, and then tell the public a story the videos don’t match, what rights do you really have in that moment – and who, exactly, is going to enforce them.
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